Monday, December 8, 2014

Pondering bits


When I started lessons with KT, she saw my bit and was displeased. She took my French link and put it around my hand and pulled the rings together, and told me that crushing effect works on the horse's jaw. I disagreed - the horse's jaw is not simliar to my finger bones. Pondering this, I wondered in what situation would a rider be able to exert that type of pressure, how would one crush a part of the horse due to the extreme flexibility of a French link?





Aha. I've got it. From the ground. Stand next to the horse, take a rein in each hand, and cross your hands so the reins make an X under the muzzle of the horse. Then pull the reins in opposite directions, pulling your fists apart. That there might crush something. I think that might be a good example of a nutcracker effect. A nutcracker effect is when two or more pieces exert pressure toward each other with a piece of the horse in between them, at least, that's my definition. But it's impossible from the saddle to exert this kind of pressure.

I saw a guy on YouTube actually crack a walnut using a snaffle bit. To do so, he needed to bring the rings together. How would you bring the rings together while mounted?

I recently read that the only way a single jointed snaffle can poke the roof a horse's mouth is when both reins are pulled straight down while leading the horse on the ground. KT said recent studies showed the movement of a single-jointed snaffle in the mouth, the joint moves forward on the tongue, not up or down, when the rider pulls both reins. So, in my mind, both types of snaffles are still mild, even if they work equally off the tongue and the bars.



My trainer told me to go back to my 1988 model single jointed snaffle (shown above), a bit I bought before I owned a horse. Hm.

I tried an imitation Myler comfort snaffle recently and Mara thought it was even milder than the french link. After the whole Legerete thing where they insisted that any bit that puts pressure on the tongue is the devil, well, I started thinking about that.

Reading the Myler site, they are adamant that a horse cannot swallow with a bit that puts pressure on the tongue. But wait, how is it that horses can drink with various bits then? If they can't swallow, they cannot drink, right? Or, while drinking, if you pull the reins does the horse have to spit out the water because it won't go down?

I talked to KT again and she said, "Better to ride with a mullen mouth than a jointed bit. Or better to find an imitation Myler because you're just paying 100Euros for the name."

Below is my favorite Myler, because it has the two rein settings for customizing it from a regular snaffle to a leverage bit. You can even put a curb chain on if you feel you need it. So many options, I like options. But too expensive, and I cannot find one used that fits my horse's tiny mouth.




Below is an interesting Myler, hmmmm...this seems very familiar: )




A Myler Kimberwick? (Actually it is Kimblewick after the town where it was first produced.) I like it, except for the little inner rings that look like you have less choice about where to put your reins. I think the beauty of the Myler is the semi-flexible joint, so the two halves of the bit can move independently of each other, and if you do that on-the-ground-pull-straight-down-on-both-reins thing, you get only a minimal nutcracker effect.

Here is an article with radiographs showing how some bits lie in the mouth. It doesn't answer many questions though.

I found a used Kimberwick on ebay (1/10th the price of a Myler) and figure it can't hurt to try it and see what the horse thinks. Supposedly the low port offers some sort of tongue relief (this is hard for me to imagine). Interestingly, it's called a "Springkandare" in German, which means "jumping curb bit" or "unbroken leverage bit."





My whole life I've thought they were ugly. OK I'm still alive and I still do.

There are three levels of adjustment for a Kimberwick. Obviously the lower rein slot makes this a leverage bit. Aarene tells me the upper rein slot makes it a minimal leverage bit. And using neither slot, just attaching the rein to the D, there should be no leverage at all. And then there's the option of leaving the chain off.



It should arrive in a few days, I'll let you know what the horse thinks.

10 comments:

irish horse said...

So many people and so many opinions on bits, I am so uncool I use what worked on my horse for the last few years.

I use the Myler you pictured (before that I had a generic of it). My horse has no issue drinking or eating on trail. Half the time I don't even have to touch it, he just carries it quietly down the trail, but for the "exciting" moments, it has been useful. Whenever I have to lead I snap my reins to the halter/bridle.

I try not to over think too much, because with any horse equipment someone will tell you you're doing it wrong/hurting the horse, etc. I hope you find something Mara likes, sorry you think it's ugly! You can replace the chain with a nice matching biothane strap...

Cricket said...

For Ashke, pressure on his soft palette is worse than pressure on his tongue, although if we can avoid both he is the happiest. He hated the Myler shank, the kimberwick, the Myler comfort snaffle, the eggbutt snaffle, the French link snaffle and the Rockin' S snaffle. The only bit he has relaxed in and not fought me on while still listening to is a smooth mouth shank bit.

lytha said...

Irish, you use the eggbutt comfort snaffle level 2? Oh if only I could find a used one in 12,7cm!

You're right, there's always someone who will say I'm hurting my horse, and what surprised me most was ...in a French link! Just looking/feeling a French link I think I'd want that in my mouth if I had to have something. Ideally we'd all ride in those hair-braid-to-dragon-brain connections in Avatar. Probably not legal in the dressage ring though *lol*

Karen, you must have spent a lot of money trying to find the one he likes!

Miss Toffelees said...

Hm... I'm not convinced. How would attaching the reins to the D-part make the leverage go away? It should roughly be the same as an unbroken Pelham used with one pair of reins, shouldn't it? And I only know these to be used for extra brakes, because of the leverage.
Either way: try it out, there are only two options: it works or it doesn't. As far as I'm concerned the most important thing about a bit is: is the horse happy with it?

lytha said...

Hm. I put my arm between the bit and the chain and asked my husband to stabilize one side while I experimented with pulling on the other side, top slot, bottom slot, and "no" slot. I didn't feel any tightening of the chain when I pulled directly at the top of the ring, but how would I ensure that my rein stays up there? Also, the lower slot, wow, that's some leverage! Anyone who uses a leverage bit should put their forearm through and experiment, to see what your horse feels when you politely tug. (Just like everyone who puts a horse in a trailer should also try riding back there.)

Unknown said...

Interesting post as I was just contemplating bits myself. I bought the ported jointed Myler kimberwick that you showed before the one you bought and am looking forward to trying it on my gelding who gallumped merrily through his snaffle at our last ride..I used to use a single jointed non ported kimberwick on my mare and I was told the same, it would have a mouth poking/jaw cracker effect..I sorta bought it but sort of scratched my head as my mare went fabulously in it, eating and drinking away and not in pain..but then there was an epic Myler sale Black Friday so I took the leap..we'll see.

Achieve1dream said...

Eek I'm getting a French link for Chrome because he hates the single jointed so I hope he likes it. I think that a single jointed snaffle could hit the top of their mouth if they are ridden in rolkur or stick their head straight up in the air or while leading. I don't know for sure though. I just hope this French link works because bits are expensive!!! I hope your new one works for Mara! Bits are so confusing. I wish I could go back to bitless, but he's still too green and excitable on the road. I need something to help me out when he spaces out on me.

AareneX said...

Fee hates the single-joint snaffle--not only runs right through it, but is completely naughty with it in her mouth. Weird? I can only figure it's a pain thing.

She likes the Kimberwick(e?) best. Highest hook (least leverage) and loose chain. Happy horse, happy licking, and she eats and drinks with it. I'm sure she could stuff more in her mouth with no bit, but that's for any bit, not just the Kimberwicke.

Her second fave is the french link. It's subtle, which she likes.

Because it is Fiddle, I'm quite sure that her preference in bits is related to the clearness of cues. She hates hates hates big, vague cues, she wants CUES, not COMMANDS.

YMMV. I'll be interested to hear about Mara's preferences!

T said...

I've got a fussy little mare right now that objects to all the regular snaffles and the french links I've tried her in. A mullen mouth and a kimberwick are both on my list of bits to try so this is a very timely post for me, thank you!

Dom said...

This is a great post. There are so many misconceptions about how bits work in a horse's mouth, and there's not much you can do to accurately imitate how a bit works while you're mounted!