I hate this, I do not want to be shopping anymore. I am so sick of it.
I really like this horse, Tempelhof. He's actually really pretty in RL and I find that I really like his warm color.
His head is atrocious, he has goaty eyes, but his legs and feet look good (until....later).
When I arrived two guys were already saddled up (one mounted) ready for me to join them on a trail ride. That is not usually how I do things but since it's a Standardbred, I thought, "Nothing worse than 2 weeks ago can happen." Boy was I wrong.
I was having a great time. Chatting it up with Ado, a man who's known Tempelhof for 3 years and knows everything about him and just adores him. I even asked him if he was getting a cut of the sale, he was so glowing about the horse. He said "Um Gottes Willen nein!"
I was really happy to be riding English again. Oh, those nice, tractable reins! I was in a dressage saddle that felt great.
His boyfriend with a lovely Martin Gore hairdo was riding a hot chestnut mare who jigged ahead of us most of the ride, trying to hurry us along. I was very impressed that Tempelhof did not insist on being right up behind her and he actually let her go on further and further with only keen interest, but no actual fight with me (as Baasha would have done).
I asked the horse for his head and he finally gave it to me and then it didn't take long before he was dropping onto the bit when I only touched him with my calves. Nice. He did have a rooting issue but I can fix that (in German I found out it's called "stealing the reins".)
It was terribly icy and the convoluted frozen mud was tricky but he never tripped. He is barefoot.
I noted that when a slender branch touched Tempelhof, he flinched. That is not normal behavior for an experienced trail horse. However, that would be no problem to train, I'm very fond of bushwhacking (geocaching) with horses where they must press through brush and step over complicated things. That would be fun, actually.
I was having such a great time until it happened. I don't know what happened, they had to tell me later. I guess some lady saw us coming, looked Ado right in the eye and then whipped her silver ice windshield guard off her car. I never saw her all I know was my horse was spinning and I was about to fall off but I was able to get ahold of the reins and then wham, his neck hit me in the face. I was hit so hard my head was spinning and I thought something was broken. I burst into tears from the pain (how embarrassing) and Ado was like "Do you want to get off? Are you OK?" I said, "Yes. Yes - is my face OK?" I thought I was bleeding but I wasn't. I tried to get off the horse and I couldn't, I was too shaky. I yelled HO! at the horse because he was still jumpy and I'm thinking that was the first time those guys had heard anyone shout that word at a horse (they say "Brrr" in German).
I finally jumped to the ground and leaned my spinning head into the shoulder of Tempelhof and cried. I then led him down the trail after the boyfriend. I was actually happy to be back on the ground again and thinking of all the times I'd been happy to just get off and lead a horse. It felt good to walk. I heard Ado shouting at the BF, "Schatzi, don't let her trot, make her walk!" and he'd try but she'd jig and then he'd just stop her and wait for us. This happened over and over the way home. Finally I found and incline and used it to jump back on Tempelhof. I was determined to not let this ruin my ride, but I could feel my chin throbbing and my lip swelling up like I'd had enhancement surgery. I put Tempelhof into a shorter frame and made him go the rest of the way home like that. I was pleased that he responded exactly as Baasha would, obediently and never arguing. I did let him have his head where on downhill slopes.
I found myself crying again and immediately wondering why - was it pain, was it fear, was it shame, or was it the supreme disappointment that something had to go wrong with this horse I was having such a great time on?
I thought it was funny later when the owner said, "He's never thrown anyone" and I said, "He almost did today." (BTW, I got the impression that the owner did not know the horse as well as Ado, he's just trying to sell him for his wife who recently gave birth to twins.)
Ado and I finally picked up a conversation after a long while and I navigated the frozen solid bits without falling.
When we got home I asked to see Ado ride Tempelhof in the arena. I got some pictures but they're blurry.
He's a decent dressage rider (besides this falling forward thing) and Tempelhof is no slacker, he looked great, and actually quite light on the front end as he was really trying hard.
I was really starting to like this horse, but I had one big worry about him - his pasterns. They look OK when he's standing, but when he walks or trots, they drop significantly. I don't know if it's DSLD or what. He does have the posty rear legs that tend to go with DSLD.
I wonder if any of you have experience with horses like this. It really worries me and I'm not even sure it's worth a vet exam because many vets won't recognize it, and early diagnosis is tough.
I would love to go back and have a perfect ride on that horse. His manners could use help - he literally dragged his owner the entire way to the paddock when we were finished. He would not be dragging me anywhere if I bought him!
I think that any horse would have spooked at that, and I never said spooking was a problem for me, I always said I'd rather have a spooky horse than one who's terribly herd bound.
My head hurts so I took some ibuprofen, and I even checked my memory on the way home by saying my birthday and my wedding day. I feel weak all over, it must be from the stress of that.
I came home and groomed Baasha and he was angelic, so beautiful and he was stretching up and pushing into the brush, which he never does, but after all these blankets he's itchy. I sure do love him.
Below are pics of the day, including the fancy arena with adjacent viewing lounge. Nice! And Ado riding Tempelhof, blurry due to low light. Lots of pics...
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I'm glad you weren't hurt any more than you were. Maybe you need to take a break from looking.
Dan
Damn! It does sound like any reasonable horse would have spooked at that--and I'm pretty sure I'd still be unconscious if I'd been riding the Toad near something like that.
I'm not commenting on the DSLD thing because I don't know enough. He looks awesome to me, but what do I know? Could you send some photos/vet exam results to a vet that you know well here in the States?
Would they be willing to let you try him out for a month?
Sucks that you got hurt, but glad it wasn't as serious as it could have been.
It's hard to tell in the photos the pasterns but they do look to be sinking farther than they should.
I think Aarene's suggestion of sending the photo's you have to a professional you trust here in the states is a good one.
Also, a point to think about: with some horses (TOAD!) I would never have been able to just hop off after an incident and then hop back on a few minutes later--spooky horses would get a huge charge out of an incident like that and would have continued to spin and tremble and be idiotic (like the jiggy chestnut) for a long time...it sounds like this fellow got his wits back together pretty quickly.
I looked at the photos and see what you're seeing...but a video might be more helpful, esp if you could compare to a video of a horse that you do not suspect of any problem. Did that sentence make sense?
Poor you! I hope you're feeling better.
He looks like a real sweetheart. I think in the circumstances he did pretty well. There are some horses who would have bolted to the hills after seeing something like that. I don't know anything about the condition you mentioned but I was thinking maybe it could be the type of trim he has that's changing the angle. I'm certainly not an expert when it comes to legs and hooves though!
Elena
It sucks that you got hurt, I can understand him spooking, but that doesn't make your jaw feel any better.
I think he is very handsome! I don't know anything about his feet though - could the footing there have anything to do with it?
You mentioned that there were lots and lots of horses for sale - would you consider broadening your source to a a different breed (for yourself)? Maybe try and let the horse speak to you, and not so much looking at what breed he is?
You've had some interesting experiences in your search, and I think you've met some really nice people along the way. Perhaps you can visit some barns nearby with different breeds to just browse and enjoy yourself without putting yourself under pressure. You love horses, we love horses, who knows, maybe you'll find a gem. It would be good for you to have some positive, pleasant experiences in your looking around, you are due a few experiences like that!
Hope you feel better, and keep your chin up. Thanks for all the photos. I am pretty sure that we are all enjoying your horse search more than you are, we appreciate all your commentary and photos. Take care.
Oh Lytha, I'm so sorry. He is a lovely horse, and his spook was not what it could be, but getting hurt makes it much, much worse. I'm glad you are alright overall.
I don't know anything about the pastern issue you're concerned with, but it sounds like you are familiar enough to make the call.
I've had a terrible time finding horses, and I've finally come to realize that i can only buy horses I've known for a good long time. I wonder if there's a way for you to do that, or find someone there who will know these horses as well as those two men you were riding with...
Hang in there, the right horse is looking for you.
So sorry you got hurt Lytha, I am sure both of my two would have 180'd out of there...
Tara
I am glad you are ok! I also wonder if they would allow a 30 day trial? So sorry you had such a scare. He sure seems lovely..
Ohmigosh Lytha I'm so sorry you had to have that happen! But I'm glad you were able to get back on and that you weren't hurt worse.
Those bumps/whacks to the face REALLY hurt. Little Tucker was super excited when I got home last night and was doing his Boston bounce and got me in the face, I thought he broke my nose!
I'm not sure about the DSLD thing, all I do know is that I used to frequently ride a mare that did something similar and she was a joy to ride, sooo smooth.
Also the quick little Google research I did seemed to indicate that dropping the pasterns like that isn't always DSLD.
Dan, you might be right, but I'm just dying to ride and so far no calls on the ads I've placed.
Aarene, I agree. I already thought about sending the photos to our vet. Even for a fee, it would be worth it.
Jeni, I'm glad you see it too.
Aarene, I made some videos and that is where I got the blurry stills that show the problem. However, in both RL and video, you cannot see the problem, the legs move to quickly. He looked *really* good going around but I knew my photos were capturing the problem. Now to find out if the owner has a clue about this.
Elena, his hooves were due for a trim, but nothing bad enough to cause the ligaments to stretch like that. I'm not sure what kind of trimming would cause a ligament to stretch like that.
KBryan, I think you're right. It's tempting to just search for local horses. What I mostly see are German Riding Horses/Ponies, Haflingers, Icelandics, and warmbloods. Those are the most common breeds. I am not familiar with those breeds but I'm not dead set against them.
Breathe, I wish I knew more horse people around here, and then maybe I'd have a chance to get to know horses that might be for sale. I've found that it takes having a horse to meet horse people, but specifically, *riding* the horse. Then they'll stop and talk. But just walking Baasha around the neighborhood, people just ride on by us. Odd huh?
Tara, that helps, knowing that he didn't bolt on me.
Sonya, these people might allow that, they are not dealers and seem to care about their horse.
Cdncowgirl, thanks for helping. I wonder what the heck it is then!?
My TB has pasterns like that... did fine on the Pre-purchase and have never caused him a day of trouble! If you cannot see it in real life ( I have compared my guy to a known DSLD) I was told not to worry - look up other images of horses at that point in their stride he does not seem to be that out of the norm, esp. given what looks to be deep footing.
Just my 2 cents!
Good luck!
You know, Lytha, after what you've been through, I think a good cry was in order.
Gina, thank you for this input. I have looked at many horses at this point in their stride and it seems that if they're jumping, it's normal, but trotting, or walking, it's not. But you've given me a grain of hope that perhaps it's nothing to worry about.
Kitty, I was so ashamed of myself for crying, and those two guys with me had no idea, I mean, they don't know what you know, so crying in front of them was so shameful. But I was hurting, and by their silence I think they understood that. Today I have a terribly sore neck on the opposite side from the impact, and a little dizziness but I'm OK. My legs are sore from the ride, showing how out of shape I am.
Oh that is too bad you got hurt!! He seemed so nice till then too. Are you gonna try him again? Maybe a few more times riding him would make you more comfortable with the decision, if hes close enough. And maybe see if you can find out if he has ever had any issues with his legs cause they drop so much. If its never been an issue maybe it will be ok?
Oh no! Poor you. It's almost like a physical whiplash what happened to you. And with the contact, I wouldn't be surprised if you suffered some brain shaking. No wonder you felt so dizzy and so painful. I'm glad nothing was broken, though, and that you managed to stay on. How rude of that woman to not wait until you all had passed before moving her ice shield.
Thankfully your horse managed to get it together after a few minutes and didn't lose his head for long.
The pastern thing is quite noticeable, and I would think that it is similar to bed springs that sag. Or a car's shock absorbers/suspension system. Without the strong ligaments in the pasterns and legs to support the horse, especially over uneven or rugged terrain, eventually it will put too much strain on the other ligaments, tendons and muscles in the rest of the legs and body. And there is also the chance for more scrapes, cuts and stumbles just from the pastern trailing the ground. Not so much in a sandy arena, but out on the trails, which is where you would be doing most of your riding. I would be concerned about the horse breaking down as it ages, too.
So disappointing, since he does seem like a nice horse and something you could definitely work with. I'm so sorry.
~Lisa
Glad you are OK Lytha!! Ouch!
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