Sunday, October 9, 2011

Chestnut gelding

I met another non-grey Arabian Saturday in the pouring rain/hail. The owner is a total sweetheart - I rarely connect with Germans so easily. When I first saw the horse I had the thought, "This is an NSH!" He was larger than normal for an Arabian, and he had bulging freaky eyes like National Show Horses often do. His face was extremely dished and lovely, but the hind end again reminded me of a Saddlebred.



Primus is 9 years old and was only started under saddle this year. He's barefoot and doesn't have trouble on our rocky trails.

I thought if he's sweet and sensible, I'd consider him.

He's straight Russian (hence the size) and a son of Kais.

I have to include a photo of Kais because Primus' face is as exotic as his father's.

The first thing when I arrived at their barn/shelter, the two horses were competing for our attention, nipping each other and pinning their ears and they were all over us. They had us backed against a wall and were trying to nibble on us. I had to keep backing him out of my space.

The other horse was a 9 year old stallion who I didn't recognize as Arabian at first because he has lost pigmentation on his face. The stallion's name is Orayan and he was also barefoot with beautifully shaped dark hooves. The stallion started licking my hands but very gently like a dog or cat, not like horses usually do. I really liked this horse but he's not for sale (and he's that awful color - white!)

We started grooming because even though it was pouring rain, I said even a 10 minute ride would show me a lot.

As I was grooming Primus, she led the stallion out of the stall and suddenly Primus lost it - he thought his friend was leaving him so he swung his body around and slammed into me with his hip and stepped on my foot. I haven't been stepped on by a horse in years cuz I'm usually aware, but this happened so fast I didn't have time to get out of the way. I was in terrible pain for a few minutes, standing there with my foot in the air, wondering if anything was broken.

The lady was embarrassed and said she didn't know why he was so riled up that day.

Later she was standing at Primus' head and he flipped her in the face with his nose, purposefully. It was so violent, so utterly rude, I couldn't believe it - even the lady yelled at him for that.

Then as we saddled up I noticed the gelding was trembling all over. She said it's the weather (the horses were both wet from the rain) but I knew that look - it was tension.

At that point I knew I was not gonna ride the horse. I saw the look in his eyes, I saw the tension, and I knew that getting on that horse would be taking an unecessary risk with my life. So I suggested I ride Orayan and she ride Primus. She agreed.

He was fine under saddle, even in the pouring rain as the trail became a river, he splashed through it. He spooked a few times and refused to go forward once. I was having a great time on Orayan and asked where she bought him. It turns out he's from Al-Najma, that farm I visited and blogged about. Orayan is a son of Ovid, that grey stallion I loved and took so many photos of. Ovid also has loss of pigmentation on his face.

The stallion nickered as we came around a corner and it was clear he was telling some neigbhoring horses, "I'm here!"

I only wanted to ride 10 minutes, but we ended up riding about 40 - in such heavy rain we were soaked completely through. The water was flowing down the saddle under my legs, it was miserable. The horses would sometimes turn without us asking, and she said they were turning their butts to the rain. The horses had to be surprised that we were out in that weather - crazy!

It's really a shame he does not have more experience undersaddle - I expect that of a 9 year old at that price. I will have to tell the nice lady I'm not interested in such a project, and thank her for a lovely time on Orayan.

Now the Arabian world here feels smaller. I'll have to tell Al-Najma I rode one of theirs!

I have another mare to look at next weekend. I had to cross out another bay mare because they want 9,000.00 Euros for her and she's not accomplished anything yet - she's just another green young horse with potential to do endurance and a free breeding thrown in. I don't want a pregnant horse, ever.

I'll let you know what happens.

17 comments:

kbryan said...

What a pretty boy he is. Sounds like he was a little nervous and excited when you were there. Kind of like, "pick me, pick me!". He may not be as "settled" as you like - sure is handsome though! Thanks for showing us the pictures.

EvenSong said...

Would you think about going back on a better day? Maybe he'd be more sensible. Sounds like he needs some work on basic manners...

allhorsestuff said...

He sure is a looker, and nice movement too from the photos.
I would go back on a nicer day one more look.

AareneX said...

Nope, I wouldn't touch him with a 50' pole. The ground does NOT get softer for a rider after age 35...and after age 40 the ground will make you splatter instead of bounce. Yes, I have tested this (extensively).

Also, his butt seems to belong to an entirely different horse...in the side-on picture, I see a sturdily-built horse from the ribcage forward, and a lightly-build horse from the last rib to the tail. Yes, more work will build bigger hindquarters, but it will also build bigger front...and this horse doesn't balance!

Thanks, but no thanks.

(bug eyes = looking for stoopids, determined to find some!)

Oak Creek Ranch said...

You are smart to pass on this one. It's interesting to read about all of these as you try them.

Melissa-ParadigmFarms said...

You never get a second chance to make a first impression. Being body slammed, stomped, and watching his owner get nailed in the face wouldn't make such a great impression on me either! I would definitely be in the pass category as well.

Reddunappy said...

Sounds like that gelding can be a bit of a handfull. He needs some more handling.
I find it interesting that you rode the stud, with no trepidations?? Is it more common to keep them intact over there?
The gelding is sure pretty though, he is really a "show" type.

Crystal said...

Hmm i think you made the right choice with him. is it common over there to have so many older horses not started or just hardly started? He is pretty, but sounds like a lot of work yet although nice that he worked in the rain without problem.

Leeshh said...

I've been reading along for a while:) You sure have an awesome blog! I love hearing about all your adventures. Good luck in your continuing horse search!

Formerly known as Frau said...

Gorgeous horse....
I hope your foot is okay today and nothing is broken.
Have a wonderful Monday!

Minus Pride said...

What a shame, chesnut geldings are my weakness!!!
I still vote for Wiszi (sp?).

PS- You have an award at my blog!!

Leah Fry said...

What Evensong said ... maybe go back on a nice day? He sure is pretty. You may have seen his worst day.

Anonymous said...

Wow, he certainly is pretty but he reminds me of a 3-year-old Morgan I used to ride and a 8 year old pony that had been turned away and never broken in properly. Both needed loads of work, had their unpredictable moments and were as green as they could be. The pony had major separation issues that he never really got over. He'd been in a field for five years with the older horse and if you tried to separate him he'd rear up and shake his head to try and get back to him. Also I agree on the backside comment. He really is a lovely creature but has kind of a bony butt! I agree on the stallion though, what a lovely looking horse he is!

Achieve1dream said...

Wow he's really typey. I don't think I've ever seen such a tiny muzzle on an adult horse. He's pretty, but I agree with passing. Just based one what you said about his behavior I would absolutely not buy that horse!

Too bad Orayan isn't for sale and isn't some other color lol.

How is your foot?

lytha said...

kbryan, yah, definitely nervous about me, i just cannot believe people don't teach manners right away.

evensong, i think he may not be cut out for trailriding - he seems like a showring horse to me.

kacy, i should admit he's out of my price range - not by far but the price ist not negotiable.

aarene, he definitely has an odd hind end! i know you took on a project in fiddle, but i don't believe you paid 6K dollars for the privilege: )

annette, i felt so smart not getting on that horse. it was one of those "good move, lytha" moments: )

melissa, all that and a really high price too. there is a buyer for such a fancy horse out there, i'm thinking a show home might be best.

reddunappy, you would have picked the stud too if you'd seen the two of them standing next to each other - one tense, one completely calm! gelding horses (and castrating dogs/cats) just doesn't happen as often here. like i said i have to keep reading over stallion ads because there are jsut as many as mares and geldings. i've asked about it and the dog owners at least say it's healthier for them to be whole. funny, i'd always heard the opposite back home. and oddly there is no pet overpopulation problem here - the shelters are filled with animals from other lands. so strange. but you've got it - he's a show type.

crystal, i have no idea - i cannot imagine having a horse and just not training it - a gelding no less.

leeshy, thanks for reading: )

frau, it hurts only a tiny bit today. i got lucky!

minus pride, thank you for the award. one of the best cars i ever owned was a subaru - it was all digital and futuristic for the time: ) i drove it in the mountains in montana in deep snow. subarus are rare in germany - but the new forrester is lovely. i would buy a forrester as a horse trailer hauling vehicle (that happens here) but i'm afraid i cannot afford one. i love forresters and put way too many miles on my mom's whenever i visited home. my sister had an outback and her husband an impreza so lots of subarus in the family: )

leah, it was such a bad day though: )

elena, i'm afraid i'm gonna be dealing with horrible separation issues as soon as i bring another horse home but we'll just have to tackle that every day.

achieve, my foot is better, thank you. i'll have to write to the farm al-najma and tell them i rode orayan. what a shame they had 40 horses, all grey! and they were super affordable too, it kills me.

samihob, thanks for visiting.

Laughing Orca Ranch said...

Sounds like he wasn't much into you and had no interest in making any kind of bond...and so rude, disrespectful and dangerous around humans, too.
Seems to me that you did the right thing to turn down the opportunity to ride him. Good for you for listening to your instincts.

His face and body are lovely from his rib cage forward, but the back end doesn't fit somehow. And his face def. fits the NSH scene. His back end might be his demise, though and his shoulder looks a bit steep in some of those photos. Not sure if it's the photos or how it really is, though.

Funny to me that you felt safer on the stallion and he was better behaved than the gelding. Too bad he's not a different color and for sale.

~Lisa

Achieve1dream said...

Hehehehe you might just be destined to have another gray . . . . ;D