Thursday, October 20, 2011
Another ride on the mare I like
I went back to ride the horse I like best in my search on Sunday, Wiszi.
We had some grooming glitches.
While grooming the mare isn’t very skilled at picking up her feet. It takes some convincing for me to get her back feet off the ground. I am annoyed that by the age of 5 she has no muscle memory of giving her feet to people when they ask – it should be an automatic response by now. I’ve never had to train a horse to do such simple things – Baasha knew this at 3.
We had a personal space issue.
Usually the mare moves away from me when I poke her with one finger – she has had some manners training to move away from pressure. But for some reason on this day she barged her side/hip against me as I groomed her and no amount of poking with numerous fingers and the brush on her flank would get her back over. Even the lady joined me in putting pressure on her side, trying to get her to move over so I wasn’t pressed up against the chestnut mare. She just wouldn’t budge. I found myself looking over/around her, wondering what it was on her other side that she refused to swing herself toward. Finally she moved and I went to her head and stroked her and said “Goooooooooood” and just breathed calmly with her. I have no idea what that is about but she apparently does not have the automatic reaction to move away from pressure 100% of the time.
We had a lunging fail.
She doesn’t know how to lunge. I asked the lady to lunge her and she did, albeit a very small circle (5-10 meters), but had some difficulty. Then she let me try and one direction was fine, but the other direction the horse was confused and she kept trying to come to me or take off at a fast trot, when I just wanted her to walk. Sometimes I think walking on a lunge line is the hardest gait, but this is usually because people usually lunge a horse to take the edge off and that means going fast. I think lunging is a training exercise. But I’ve never trained a horse how to lunge, and wasn’t sure what to do because if I used the whip toward her shoulder to get her away from me, she’d take off, then I’d tug the cavesson to get her to walk, and she’d come off the circle, right to me. (Recently a blog had a great video showing a method of teaching lunging – use 2 people – one keeps the horse out on the 20 meter line with the whip, the other just holds the line, while standing firmly planted in one spot. It was brilliant.)
Then we had some riding adventures.
We saddled up and went out for our second trail ride. We went a different way and I wasn’t thrilled to be riding a shod horse on pavement, but the horses are used to it. We did a lot of trotting and I was in the lead because I want to see how brave this young mare is. She looks at everything as if she’s never seen it before, but she doesn’t hesitate. Then I asked if we could separate and I was sorry I asked! The lady took one trail and I took another, and we completely left each other. She told me we’d meet at the end at a field but I saw no field. About halfway up the hill my mare just stopped. I know she felt my hesitation, couldn’t trust me, and wanted to know where her friend was. I drummed her sides with my feet, I also talked to her in my best fake confident voice, “Walk on!” and it seemed to work. She finally moved on. Whew. I also used very strong seat aids to keep her moving forward and hopefully not piss her off. When we got to the end of the trail there was no field and I had to figure out which way to turn. I did not like this! The mare could feel my uncertainty (where are we?) and that didn’t help. I kept planning my emergency dismount. But I chose correctly and soon enough we saw the chestnut mare coming toward us. An old couple was walking in the woods and they saw the happy reunion and asked if the horses knew each other, if they were mother and child. *giggle* I found out later that the chestnut mare had a little meltdown of her own as soon as we left her. OK then.
We were having fun, talking and laughing when suddenly a deer jumped in the dry leaves above us on the hillside, and our horses went from a walk to a gallop in a microsecond. At the moment of the bolt I kind of blacked out for a second, wondering what was happening, and remember looking at the “steady eddie” mare to see if she was also bolting. Yes, she was. Her dappled chestnut rump was moving just as rapidly as we were, about a meter in front of us. I also found myself attached to the saddle horn by my bra as my mare lurched forward and upward. (How do you prevent this, western riders? It used to always happen to me anytime I jumped logs in the woods with a western saddle.)
But not too many more seconds passed before the mares stopped their bolt and turned their faces to see what it was that almost got them. Somehow I was still sitting on that horse, and I cannot help but wonder what her reaction would have been if she had been alone. Certainly you cannot blame a young horse for bolting when its best friend and protector also bolts. I wonder if I’ll ever know the answer.
Things didn’t go as smoothly as I’d hoped, but I still like the horse enough that I scheduled a pre-purchase exam for Monday.
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She sounds somewhat untrained and green - a lot like Drifter when I got him - he was 10 at the time. We had to do a lot of work on feet-handling, leading and ground manners but he's pretty good now. Haven't got him on the trail yet - we're still getting things sorted in the arena. I was impressed by how well the mare did when you separated from the other horse - that's a hard thing for a horse particularly one with an unfamiliar rider and that isn't terribly well-trained.
Best of luck on the prepurchase exam.
Yes Kate this is exactly why I'm considering a younger horse than planned - I realize I could buy a 10 year old and have the exact same issues.
I really enjoyed your horse search and find and am happy you stopped by to read.
Well at least you know what you're getting into. Has she ever been ridden by anyone else? Strangers?
This must be a new and strange situation for such a young horse.
She still seems like a good horse, just young and green. I have a feeling that over time and with additional training, she will come to trust you and feel confidence when out on the trails just the two of you together.
If she passes the PPE, will you be allowed to take her home for a couple weeks trial period?
~Lisa
She sounds okay, I agree, just young and green. But her reactions were honest and she calmed down afterwards which is great. I think in no time you would have her picking up her feet like a pro and moving away from pressure. Just sounds like she wasnt asked a lot. (and none of my horses know how to lunge so I cant say much on that)
I like that she "got her brain back" after getting scared, and that she *listened* to you even when you clearly didn't know WTH you were doing!
RE: pushing into you instead of giving to pressure, I'd bet money the mare is coming into heat. Fee does this, it's very annoying. I beat her unmercifully (exaggeration, obviously) until I finally figured out that it was a physical reaction to stimulus she can't really control. Now I have her trained to a voice command that doesn't involve touching her. Also, I'm hoping to spay her, soon!
My advice: Find out what this mare is like when she cycles! If pushing on you is as bad as it gets, you can train around it.
She's so cute! Glad you had a moderately successful ride - she sounds like her issues are within your ability/desire to solve. Fingers crossed for the PPE!
Two words sports bra.
As for the rest, I know you are up for the green thing. Besides, now we will be able to commiserate!
I agree with everyones comments - she sounds green and untrained, but it doesn't sound like anything you couldn't handle. I'm sure in a few weeks you would notice a big difference... Here's hoping the PPE goes ok! She is a pretty mare.
I'm really enjoying reading about your horse search and I'm really happy you went back to see the mare again.
I agree with Kate's comments. I get the feeling that the mare is very honest and well meaning, she's just in a very strange, new situation and she's green on top of all of that. Oh I feel for you, I'm glad everything turned out okay on the ride despite everything that happened. I've had older horses do the same kind of things too.
I'll keep my fingers crossed that everything goes well in the prepurchase exam.
What an adventure! It's great that you recognize her hesitation when you have doubts. The foot thing will come. My boys weren't great with it, but now Doc hands me each foot. I still have to 'tickle' Pippin's fetlock, but then he'll lift it up. Doc was also terrible about moving away from pressure. He would lean into it.
Sounds promising! I hope the preliminary check works out well.
Lisa, I have no idea how many people have ridden her but I would guess only a couple.
A trial period - I have no idea if that happens here. I've never done this but I'll let you know what happens.
Crystal, not that I lunge my horse often, I just want it to be available as a skill. And I want to learn to be better at lunging, myself.
Aarene, I like the idea of teaching a horse to move over by voice command/my body posture and where I'm looking. She seemed really confused and pitiful when she wouldn't move over, and I know she knows that so it must have been something else, but what...and I'm so curious what that spook would have been like if we'd been alone.
Funder, I appreciate the vote of confidence: ) I think so too, it's just been so long since I've had to.
Breathe, your comment touched me - you're right, we'll have to talk.
Laura, that's so nice of you to say.
Elena, thank you - it helps when you say that it happens with older horses too.
Dreaming, it is such a drag to not have the relationship yet, and feel the glaring lack of trust.
This is all very exciting!
I am glad that you continue to reseach her out.
The bolt with the lead freind is not so uncommon. My mare is pretty darned level headed but if we are with another horse that says it may die and wants to leave..mine will follow suit. Alone, she takes my cue...
I think you'll get to find out soon with this one.
Too bad she is green at 5 for such things as feet handleing, but it will give you time to teach her. She is smart and will respond well to your style of fairness correct handling methods.
I hope she is the one!
KK
I was thinking that she was in heat with the whole not moving away from pressure thing too. Funny someone else mentioned it too. :)
I think you can work around all of her flaws. She's such a nice mare I think once you've built a relationship with her the nerves and bolting thing will be a non issue. :) In my opinion if that was her first time going out alone with someone she doesn't know she did great. She still listened to you. I can't wait to read about the PPE.
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