I wish I could say I'm excited to have a new trainer but I'm not too impressed by her.
She's a full-time trainer, it's her only job, and she's got too many clients to be here weekly. And she's expensive - 37,50Euros for less than an hour. I like that she's at least my age, cuz having trainers way younger than me feels weird.
Mag was great today, totally relaxed, and she observed me tacking up and then walked up the street to the woods with me. (He got stung by a wasp as I was grooming him! How rude, he was just standing there tied! I swatted it away, too late, it swelled up, larger and larger....poor thing!)
First thing Susanne said: I lead Mag wrong, I should walk at his shoulder, not in front of him, "Because if he spooks, he'll run right into you." I said, "I'm actually safe up here, and less likely to get run into." I should have warned her about the way I lead before we even left, because it obviously upset her. This was after her speech about how horses need a human to trust as a leader, or else they'll make their own decisions. In my mind, when my horse is following me 1-2 meters behind me, I'm leading in every sense of the word.
She encouraged me that she would never ask me to do anything I'm not comfortable with.
Then a car came and she said the way I lead makes it hard for the traffic and I said, "No worries, we do this all the time, I make eye contact with the drivers and step my horse to the side, and either stop or slow down and nod to the driver to pass." She did not seem to agree with me about that, and got very quiet for a while.
I tried to draw her out again by asking her about her horse, but she didn't have much to say. I doubt very much she gives lessons out in traffic, so this situation was probably new to her.
We got to the woods and I got on and we kept talking, but after a while Mag started tossing his head. I asked her to take the lead rope to reinforce my cue to just stand there, and she did, but then she said it's better to let Arabians go, because they resolve stress through movement. I agree with the second half of that statement, but not the first. It was disappointing to me that she didn't see standing as an exercise that would be valuable.
So we went a little ways, and I told her I often talk a lot when I'm riding because it helps me breathe. Then she said, "Just be in the moment, it's only fair to the horse to be with him now, and not talk about other things." I thought that was interesting and shut up. I don't get it because I'd just told her talking helps me relax, but maybe she wanted me to talk about what was happening right then?
I told her how if a rider were to appear, Mag would probably get upset/excited. She said it's because he lives with a donkey, that the sight of another horse would cause a reaction. I should have countered that with, "Hikers with dogs might also elicit a reaction, as well as mushroom-seekers" but I was too annoyed to think clearly.
We had some nice conversations about fear in horses and fear in people, she said that especially riders in Germany are forced to hide emotions such as anger and fear. I thought to myself, "If she says to me, 'horses are flight animals'..." and then she said it. *SIGH* Do you understand how insulting that is as a horse owner, to be told that - constantly, by everyone, and in every horse magazine I read? No, REALLY? I thought they were predators, viciously killing mountain lions with their sharp teeth and hooves. To be fair, it seems to be drilled into the consciousness of every German I've ever met, and they cannot NOT say that line.
She annoyed me by telling me I was using my reins incorrectly. Not sure what to do about that. I'm not interested in equitation lessons, but I understand if you're a riding instructor, you cannot help pick apart the rider's use of the aids.
She said Mag is a very attractive horse, (to which I said "that's nice of you to say") and that he's very well muscled. I laughed cuz no, he's not - he has no condition whatsoever from his pasture-strolling lifestyle, and a belly that makes me suspect worms despite my worming regime (time to collect a sample for the vet).
She commiserated with me that this is an awful place to try to ride horses, because so many of the trails are paved, and short, ending in traffic again. I told her I estimated my longest trail to be 20 minutes before hitting the next town. Search and Rescue does not exist here. (Well, the rescue part does, when your horse falls through a bridge!)
Mag was on his best behavior and nothing bad happened, and afterwards I said, "I'd like your help, regularly" and she said it's difficult cuz she has so many clients. She said I should try to ride every day. Of course that would be great if I could. I'll ask Ani if she can ride more often (Susanne is Ani's instructor, that's how we got hooked up).
I told her it's been a long time since I've enjoyed riding, and I look forward to enjoying it again someday.
To which she replied, "If you don't enjoy riding this horse, you should sell him and get one you can enjoy." Wow, I did not expect to hear a trainer say that.
I'm thinking about giving her a chance, despite all this. She cannot damage the situation, and I'm curious to see if she can help.
Lastly....she never asked me what my horse's name is. (And I know her horse's name, and nickname.)
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Sigh. I wish I could use emojis because I think they would better express what I feel. Because he lives with a donkey......
KB, if you were here, I'd hug you: ) Hey, you should come here for a visit. Free place to stay, I'm serious. And we'll feed you, and show you the nice places.
Every horse trainer usually just regurgitates the same messages upon meeting a new client who they don't know. I wouldn't worry about it. Once she learns where you are in your experience and training, I'm sure she'll be able to get down to the nitty gritty. I've noticed that horse trainers go through phases. The first is teaching you nothing new and learning about your horse, you, and everyone's comfort zones. The second phase is when they start teaching particulars and you start learning. The third phase is when they feel so comfortable with you that they stop teaching and you stop learning, and that's when I end the lessons.
hmmm, how do you exactly think she is going to help you? Truly wondering, she seemed to just say things you already know and/or be annoying, wasn't much interested in why you did things certain ways (we all have quirks, habits with horses that can be good or bad).
If it is just to have someone else watching you so you're confident enough to go out, then that is ok, though costly. Did she say anything constructive?
I think go out more with friends, and maybe shorter rides alone, to build up your confidence, might be more beneficial.
First off, my horse lives with GOATS. And she's fine. Yes, she likes seeing other horses, but if a horse is annoying her (or me) on the trail, we can turn and trot away without drama. She would love to have another horse as a companion, and she likes when the neighbor's field has horses (they rotate among three fields on our road). But even when there are horses nearby, she doesn't hug the fence to be with them; rather, she meets up with them for a few gossip sessions each day and then goes back to doing her own stuff.
*It's just not a thing.*
Something I learned from my physical therapists: they start off with a new client assuming that the client knows nothing, even when the client says, "Before my injury I rode my horse regularly in 50-mile races and also I hold a 3rd degree black belt." They begin everyone with the same basic assessment stuff, and when they see "holes" in the client's skill/knowledge (there are always holes), that's a place to begin. Knowing this made some of the "baby stuff" less annoying.
I don't usually walk directly in front of my horse. One bee sting can make all the training abandon ship, and it would be natural for a stung horse to trample forward to escape. That is not to say that I *never* do, because I do walk in front on narrow trails. But if there's an option, I prefer to have her at my shoulder.
What is it with Germans and donkeys for heavens sakes. I mean Camryn lived with a dog and had no issues! Well, if you decide to continue with her, you've got nowhere to go but up!!! I'd be happy to just just walk with you, let you talk and help Mag enjoy being patient.
I'm curious as to what your goals are with the lessons. Maybe it would be good to share with her so that she knows what you want and can let you know if it's possible. Maybe you did that and I missed that post.
NM, thanks for that - you're right, I shouldn't be annoyed/insulted.
Irish, that is the question that echoed around in my head all day long. Not sure - I guess I'll find out. I liked how she believes that doing something in spite of fear does not help resolve the fear. Your tips at the end are exactly right, those are the things I'm going to try to do. More riding partners would be great, but going alone where I feel good about a trail will also help.
Aarene, I hadn't thought of that, how trainers all start off the same, etc, but it's good to know. I find that horses usually spook to the side, so I feel safer out front, and I feel it requires a lot of self-discipline in Mag that he stay back there on a loose line (not that Fiddle needs a tight line!). I have been ran into twice though, once on a single track where I had no choice but to be in front, and once cuz of traffic. Thankfully I didn't fall down or lose the horse. Considering all the hours I spend leading my horse in traffic, I think twice isn't so bad: )
Camryn, you know what, if I were to trade in the donkey for a horse, they'd tell me any issues I have with Mag are because he lives with only ONE horse. I'm sure of it. OK then come visit and walk with me!
Teresa, I'd actually written my goals down on paper before my lesson and showed it to her (but didn't mention in my blog). 1. Wear a raincoat 2. Not get kicked 3. Go bushwhacking 4. Ride without fear (haha?)
Okay that is helpful. would you be okay if i gave you some feedback on your goals?
Teresa, it's very polite of you to ask. Of course you can. But if you tell me to sell Mag....I won't be able to. I find I really like him.
My DIL's Mom is flying over in November, I'll hitch a ride!
I would always ask. I like your goals but I'm wondering if she found them specific enough. I was thinking that little tweaking might make it easier for you (alone or with help) to build a plan:
1. Wear a raincoat- I think that this is because Mag spooks over the noise? If so then the goal is really to get Mag acclimated to the noise of garments such as rain coats
2. Not get kicked-Is this from Mag when you are handling him? Or of other horses? If the first then really you want to increase Mag's tolerance o people working around his hind end so that he does not kick in response to stimuli.
3. Go bushwhacking -have the confidene to take Mag into uneven terrain
4. Ride without fear (haha?)- riding without fear may notbe possible. HOw about: develop tools to deal with scenarios that cause me fear (eg., in traffic).
And I would never advise you to sell Mag! I think he's great.
Hi Lytha! Based on your description of the lesson, I admit I also wonder why you had her come, and I suspect she also wonders this. You have such a clear idea of how you like to work with your horse, who you know better than anyone, so maybe that's all you need right now.
And my two cents: fear is not necessarily something you need a horse trainer for, because there are so many better resources out there for specifically that, which you can adapt to riding.
Teresa, I did explain in a little more detail as we were out there, but I did assume "raincoat" was obvious: ) Mag kicks other horses when we're trotting and there is another horse trotting behind him. He also kicks at brush (hence the buschwhackinig goal) and trees that didn't even touch him. He also kicks out randomly during hind-hoof handling or when something touches his hind end.
Sirje, I think you might be right on all counts - I just miss having lessons/professional help so much. OK what I miss is having a GOOD trainer.
You've already gotten lots of feedback above, so I wasn't going to add anything, until I thought about my reasons for taking lessons-- besides specific skills, my trainer does two things for me: she gives me regular feedback on my progress, and she holds me accountable for working towards my goals. You have very clear goals, I think (Theresa's fine tuning notwithstanding), but knowing how discouraged you can get from time to time, it's good to have a live/in-person someone (besides your blog readers) to remind you how far you've actually come with Mag! Does that make sense?
It's fair of you to give her one more chance, but I think you would benefit more from someone beyond her level as evidenced by some of the things she said.
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