Saturday, August 17, 2013

New saddle

I haven't bought a new saddle since 1995 when I did dressage - all my others were used. (In 1995 I bought a synthetic Thorowgood for $400.)


I won't ever buy a new car or vehicle of any kind because they devaluate the first few miles so much it just seems wrong.

But I wanted to badly to join team Specialized after riding in one again, and seeing so many other bloggers happy with their choice.

I did not have an easy time getting this saddle because I went directly through the manufacturer who is atrocious at customer service. In fact, after he got my money, when I asked when they sent my fit kit, after waiting several weeks, he said "Calm down" in his email. I took his snarky advice, waited 6 weeks, and asked again. Oh, I guess they were lost in the mail. We'll just send the saddle then.

These saddles come with a series of neoprene and velcro shims and pads that can be combined to fit most horses (not all horses - none can say that). Supposedly you don't need a saddler, you can just simply learn to do this yourself for any horse.

All these weeks waiting I watched all the fitting videos I could find online, to be ready, but I knew the saddle would come with a DVD that helps with fitting.

Very disappointed, I saw that it's just the same videos I saw online so far. And they are not enough. I received the loin template fit kit, and it has numbers on it - but the numbers don't mean anything to me. They don't say "If your horse measures a 0, use this pad" for example. There was no note in the box, however, there were two brochures with pictures of their entire saddle line in case I want to buy another.

Funnily, as I set it up on a chair in my living room, I kept thinking I was imagining things, like if I saw it out of the corner of my eye, it was like I was looking at one of your blogs, you SS people. It just didn't "fit" here, in my brain.

So, how do I fit it to my horse? Using my eyes, my feel, well, I'm not so good at that. I need more.

I was very glad to see that it is not too long for her short back. Actually, the interior panels are about 2 inches shorter than the saddle skirt itself - how odd, but good for a tiny horse.

I put it on her and was instantly annoyed that the pad that comes with it, made by SS, for this saddle, does not seem to fit this saddle! I have a Eurolight and this pad seems to be made for the International or something, with a big bulge at the front, like you could use it with an English saddle. I'm soooo picky about my pads fitting exactly around my saddle bearing area. I can't believe that it was made by them (in Taiwan) and does not fit the saddle. I was also disappointed that it's cream with white trim, and not white as described on their site. Oh well, you can't really tell.

I just wanted to see it on her but my man said, "Jump up there and I'll get some pics." I wasn't prepared, as you can see, but I did, and walked around the front yard a few times. I was instantly "locked in" as I sat down in this saddle. That is one of the perks of it, if you like that, it really grabs you. Also, a suede seat is extra sticky.

Mara looks perplexed in the photos, and I felt bad cuz I hadn't fit it to her yet.

As you've probably read in other blogs, this saddle is not top quality - the leather looks cheap and already has a scuff on it out of the box. The conchos are awful, but I knew they would be there. I can ignore them, Aarene promises me it doesn't take long to learn to ignore them, or just cover them with junk. However, the saddle is very affordable, saddlewise. Brand new even. I paid way more than you guys, I know, but way less than what I'd pay in Germany for a new saddle of any kind. Even including shipping and customs fees, which are a huge chunk.

I am going to sell the stirrups it came with (they refused to sell it without stirrups!), cuz I prefer cages cuz I prefer riding in hiking shoes and I like the safety of cages, even if it's only in my mind (I've fallen off without them and never had a problem).

I was afraid it would look huge on her, cuz she's so diminutive. But thankfully it doesn't. The pad though....

So I'm eagerly awaiting mails from friends I've asked for help in figuring this thing out. Come on please advise, I want to ride!!!!

For now, here are pics from the modelling session (and we now have FOUR easyboots! yay!).

I am excited, I cannot say delighted, because I still don't know how it works, but hope to be delighted by tomorrow! I am in love with its appearance - its minimalist design and sleekness. I love how it seems to just disappear underneath riders (like Funder), like she's riding bareback.

Ready...set.....wait.






























10 comments:

Becky said...

I LOVE it! It's beautiful, and it looks great on her - it makes her back actually look longer.

AareneX said...

Okay, here's how I fit mine:

Put on *only* the long neoprene fit pad and put the saddle directly onto the horse (no saddle pad).

Then run your hand between the saddle and the horse.

Got a gap? While your hand is still there in the gap, use a piece of chalk to draw the place (and approximate shape) of the gap on the saddle with your other hand.

Fill the gaps with the wedge-shaped shims. You can cut them to size with kitchen scissors. Put the saddle back on the horse and feel again. Move shims in and out until it feels even on the horse's back.

Now check for tight spots with your hand and your chalk. Use the chalk to mark places where your hand is pinched by the saddle. If the spot is REALLY tight, carve away some of the spot with scissors, otherwise use sandpaper to ease those places. Pay close attention to the area near the shoulders--I've never NOT needed to reduce that spot for any horse.

I also round all the edges of the large pads (using scissors and sandpaper--I think Funder uses a rasp!) so they aren't so sharply square.

Look at the saddle to make sure it sits level on the horse. Shim or carve to adjust. You can also move the large fit pads further apart (away from the centerline) to lower the saddle and give more room around the spine, or put them closer to the centerline to raise the saddle above the withers.

Next, mount up. Have a friend repeat the hand-under-the-saddle exercise when you are in it.

Now, put on a saddle pad (WHITE???? You are glutton for soap!) and go for a ride. Check the sweat pattern and tweak the fit pads again as needed.

Don't be surprised if one side of the saddle has a lot of shims and the other side has a lot of carved-away places--green horses are notoriously one-sided, and she will become more even with time and plenty of balanced dressage practice!

When legging up a green horse, check the fit pads every month because her muscles will change the fit dramatically. With Fiddle, I check them every season, as her hair coat sheds out or grows in, because her body shape isn't changing much now.

TAKE PICTURES AND SHOW US!!!!

lytha said...

becky, i'm so happy to hear this! it was my main worry.

aarene, you are now officially invited for a mostly-all-expenses paid trip to europe, to help me fit my horse to this saddle. i will pay all your costs minus airfare (depending on season which varies from 700 -1000). you can bring only one sheltie. one sheltie will show the neighbor's dog what barking REALLY is.

as i followed your instructions i found only one gap, somewhat behind the shoulder. the sweat pattern after riding showed a disturbance behind the shoulder. hm. maybe it needs attention like you said. i hate how juniper ranch says, "most horses need this particular shim combination" --- oh crap. that's a lotta shims.



what i'm most concerned about is, after riding, i'm tipping forward again, as usual. is my horse really so downhill?

i've done what the forum suggested and brought the pads together at the front, and apart at the rear, but maybe i need to make that much more extreme.



CG said...

congratulations on the new saddle! I love my Specialized,it is the most comfortable saddle I have ever had-for me and Cartman!

I can't begin to give fitting advice (just commiseration), I just spent about 4 hours one day shimming, cutting, filing, pulling it off and on and over and over:)

Kept thinking about all that geometry I had back in junior high!

Regarding the saddle pad, if you use a Stowaway in front it will keep that up off your horse.

I purchase the Bootie pads from Carol Brand and would highly recommend them. They are $$$ but hold up extremely well and seem to help my saddle fit all the better.

Enjoy!

lytha said...

cg, thanks for writing. i'm in touch with carol now, and hope to buy her booties soon as the money comes around again: ) she's been a real help even though i did not buy thru her. i wish i had. i actually have a stowaway, but i don't use it that often cuz it's kind of overkill (4 bottles up front!). i hope to figure this fitting thing out soon. i hate this tipping forward feeling that this horse is giving me, no matter what saddle i seem to apply.

AareneX said...

Yes, move the pads forward at the front and spread them out at the back to fix the "rocker."

If necessary, add shims to raise up the front until the saddle sits level on her back (while you are in it!).

Fiddle is distinctly downhill when she's standing squarely on a flat surface. When she moves, her butt lowers by an inch or more (especially at the trot). Mara can learn to do this, but it will take time--those muscles have to be strong.

Meantime, make yourself level on her back by messing with the pads and shims. Remember: even when you cut the wedge shims into tiny pieces, you can reassemble them to make bigger pieces by putting them side-by-side again.

And I agree with Becky -- the saddle isn't too long for her at all!

Luna and I would love to come visit you. Tell the money fairy that I accept cash, check and Paypal. Or tell all your friends to buy a billion copies of *Endurance 101*!!!

Bakersfield Dressage said...

Best of luck, Lytha. New saddles are fun! :0)

Caitlin said...

I was also going to suggest the booties but I see someone else already has. The saddle looks great on her and there is definitely something to be said for a saddle that locks you in. My saddle does that but the dern thing weighs 30 lbs. My next endurance saddle won't be so heavy but that is years and years away as I did just buy this one. I guess it's an incentive to loose weight and build muscle!

I almost bought a specialized... and someday still may. Sorry you had such crappy customer service. AareneX is practically an expert so I'd try her ideas. Good luck!

Ruth said...

Everyone has basically said everything I was going to say.

CG is right about the extra space at the front of the pad—it will protect your water bottles/extra boots from your sweaty horse and vice-versa.

My experience with fitting has been very similar. It is certainly a lot of trial and error and it may never be truly perfect. Right now Blue has big pockets behind his shoulders that I can't seem to fix without throwing everything else off...

Remember that in the old days most cowboys only had one saddle and a whole string of horses when they trailed cows thousands of miles to market. Mara won't die of minor imperfections any more than those broncos did. :)

Take a deep breath, lean back, open your hip angles and hope for the best!

hainshome said...

remember how the lady in PNER died- she was trying out a saddle and just decided to hop on w/o a helmet?
Sorry, just being a sister.