I am ashamed and I'm angry and I've been praying for forgiveness. I really liked these people and had hoped to be friends.
These people were always so accomodating, they let me ride Coin, the 17.2HH Standardbred and we always rode slowly because I'm new to the area and that horse.
Saturday I called to say I can finally ride with them again on my new horse.
My acquaintance Kat would be riding Coin the Standie, and her teenaged friend ? would be riding Dakota the warmblood.
It took me 45 minutes to walk to their place. On the way I had my cell phone, and I thought I should text them, something in my head said, "text them" to tell them that I'm on a green, young horse who needs some help learning about our hills and valleys in this state, and that we'd only been out one time with another horse.
But I regret I did not, and when I arrived, I just let them know I need to go slow.
They accomodated to a point, but as we went, the teenager kept holding her horse back and trotting to catch up. That's something we all did as teenagers I think when given a chance to ride.
This upset Mara a lot, and she started jigging and head tossing in frustration. I asked the girl to stop trotting off suddenly and she looked at me, and did it again. I was able to somewhat deter Mara from jigging by using one rein at a time.
The teenager said, "Your horse just wants to run. Just let her and she'll settle down." Ah yes, Mugwump's first endurance ride story comes to mind, where she cured the jigging by letting Mort gallop to his heart's content. But I doubt it was his first time in a group of more than one, and he probably wasn't in pasture potato condition like Mara is.
We rode into an area I don't know, and kept going. I asked if we could just go slow, and Kat said, "Let's just trade horses. You ride Coin and I'll ride Mara."
I thought, interesting, I wonder what will happen. I took her up on it. Coin is steady so I was good on him, Kat took Mara to the front and let her trot. The teenager was delighted to be trotting. I trotted slower, in the rear, feeling the horrible strain of riding on a Western saddle in my knees.
When they finally slowed down, Mara was "up" and not about to just walk after that excitement, and she started jigging. Kat was having a great time, letting her jig *in the lead position* and pulling back steadily on the reins (what encourages jigging). That my horse was not content to walk in front, but jigged out there, was disappointing to say the least. Finally I said, "Can you see if you can get Mara to just walk normally? Jigging is a habit and that she is doing it out front is worrisome." Even Baasha didn't have to jig if he was in the lead, where he wanted to be. We'd pushed Mara over the edge.
She was actually able to get Mara to walk normally.
Then about 10 minutes later I said, "Do you think you can see if Mara can follow and not always lead?" Kat said, "You'll have to lead then, because Dakota cannot, he's too scared to be in front." I said, "So you can NEVER ride him in the lead, ever?" No. I made a connection with this to the fact that each time a horse needed to poop, they let the horse stop. When I asked about it, they said, "People stop to poop, so the horses can too."
I knew they saw me as a real drag to their fun ride, telling them what to do twice, and asking them repeatedly can we please just walk.
These girls had to pee 4 times and climbing back on huge horses was always an event requiring both of them. At one point I was on Mara while we were waiting for Kat to pee, and Mara just lost it, she couldn't stand still another second and started jumping around and even half reared. (!!) I was actually glad for all the pee breaks because Mara obviously needs to work on this. But obviously not in such a stressful situation, at this point. On the 4th pee break I said, "So how many beers did you drink before this?" and they said, "Two!" I have nothing against drinking and riding but this probably kept them from empathizing with my situation.
Kat kept saying how great Mara is, how much fun she's having. Mara did look happy, and even more confident than ever, but it was too far, too long, and too fast.
Finally I got back on her for one last hill toward home and without warning, Kat and the teenager took off at a gallop up that last hill. I had no choice but to gallop behind them, and Mara has never carried a rider at speed up a hill before. I could tell she was unsure how exactly to do that.
When we got to the top I was furious. I said, "Actually I wanted to try trotting."
They were laughing and ignored me, but I saw them exchange more glances like, "The control freak tries to control us again!"
Then they went through their gate, and I just stood there on Mara wanting her to practice standing still again. They said, "Until next time" and I said, "Bye" and rode her down the street alone until she spooked and a car was coming so I jumped off and led her home.
It started raining and it was really windy and it felt so good when the wind blew the rain on my face. Mara followed me politely and grabbed some long grass on either side of the sidewalk as cars whizzed by. She really has no problem with traffic, that's good.
But I cried a few tears in frustration, because I realize that I have so few resources here in Germany, yet again, and I truly need people to accomodate me and go slowly with my green horse. I'm not sure I have people who can help me - C's appy mare is a wild whirling thing, and N's paintabian is getting ready for her first LD next week. (An LD of 12 miles so in my mind that's not even an LD, but as I've mentioned, Germany has FOUR levels of LD before 50 miles.)
I can't ever let myself get into that situation again, and I won't. I thank God nothing bad actually happened, I realize it could have gone very badly.
In the past I regretted not riding Baasha in groups often enough. He was a real pain in a group. I don't want to repeat this mistake, but will anyone want to help me?
Below are some photos I took. Please know that I am walking Coin, and Kat is letting Mara jig along, reins tight, not a care in the world.
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She is such a beautiful horse.
I rode Cruiser almost exclusively alone for the first couple of years because I didn't have a good partner to ride with. When I finally got a regular riding partner, he was fine. If you have to ride alone, just be sure to have her stick to the same rules that you would want with other horses. Then you can test her with other horses when you can.
It is tough to find people who want to ride like you want to ride. The problem I have is finding people who want to trot and canter--quietly. They either want to stay at a walk, or they like riding out of control. I am so grateful I trained my sister and boyfriend to ride like me.
When anyone wants to ride with me, I state how I plan to ride, and let them know if they don't want to ride my way, they won't ride with me. The only exception is if they have a green horse and want my help--then I am very accomodating.
So come to Cleveland, and we can go riding!
You held your tongue with that teen better than I would have. I hate when riders disregard the needs of others. Unfortunately, it happens too often.
Hope you can find another group to ride with.
You have to do what you feel is best for you and your horse, but just some observations I've made... There is a fine line between being safe and unecessarily cautious. I often rode with a friend that would jump off at the slightest sign of spook or snort instead of giving her horse the courage he needed to face whatever made him nervous. She was often quite bossy and would impose her riding rules onto me, it rubbed off onto me and I started to lose my confidence, as did my horse. She usually made situations worse with her over analyzing and fear. My motto is just ride through it. Obviosuly there are situations where you have to get off though, those you have to judge. But i believe that we can help build our horses confidence by staying on and quietly but firmly asking what we want of them. For jigging, one of the best methods I've found to work is zig zagging them. the second they start to jig, quickly grab one rein to the side pulling their head over, making them walk one direction, if they continue, then go the opposite direction. timing is key though, start immediatley when jigging, stop immediately when they walk - even if it's a fast walk.
You have to do what you feel is best for you and your horse, but just some observations I've made... There is a fine line between being safe and unecessarily cautious. I often rode with a friend that would jump off at the slightest sign of spook or snort instead of giving her horse the courage he needed to face whatever made him nervous. She was often quite bossy and would impose her riding rules onto me, it rubbed off onto me and I started to lose my confidence, as did my horse. She usually made situations worse with her over analyzing and fear. My motto is just ride through it. Obviosuly there are situations where you have to get off though, those you have to judge. But i believe that we can help build our horses confidence by staying on and quietly but firmly asking what we want of them. For jigging, one of the best methods I've found to work is zig zagging them. the second they start to jig, quickly grab one rein to the side pulling their head over, making them walk one direction, if they continue, then go the opposite direction. timing is key though, start immediatley when jigging, stop immediately when they walk - even if it's a fast walk.
I have the same problem with my young stallion. I need folks who can control their horses and ride slow. I can't find them either. I agree with Judi - there is nothing wrong with riding alone. It will help confirm the good behaviors before you ride out in a group.
Sam
Feeling your frustration and hurt. Totally get it, as I have "friends" who are quite similar. Once they wanted to allow 5 geldings loose with my mare in the arena. Only three of the horses knew each other, one was known to be quite aggressive. I suggested they hold off till I'd left and began to do so. They did change their minds, but didn't like it. This happened twice, now they wonder why I don't accept invites to the arena!
uggghhh - sorry you had an awful ride! it can be hard when you're in a group to do (or get others to do!) what's best for your horse.
and yea - come to Idaho, and we can go riding too!
- The Equestrian Vagabond
Don't second guess yourself about riding alone with Baasha. You have to take each horse as an individual. Winston is a basket case riding in a group of horses he doesn't know. So, I won't do that to him. Fortunately, Brett and I like to ride at the same pace and we always take into consideration how "up" the horses are before we do more than walk. If one horse gets too happy or silly, we stop. I hope you find an equally sane riding partner. Teenagers, like you said, will typically go fast whenever possible. At that age, I did the same.
I would like to read Eryns blog but can' t seem to find it. Would you tell me the name of it or link it to yours so I can find it? Thank you, Ellie
I am so sorry about this...it sucks... This is why the former owner of my palomino liked riding with me, and, unfortunately it is also why she got hurt and gave hi up. People she had been riding with suddenly cutting lose and running caused the palomino to have a fit (about being left behind and held to a walk) and he bucked her off on rocks...broke her tailbone...:(
I wouldn't ride with them again...screwing around like that when someone asks you not to is so not right...
Tara
Hmmm, those two have never had anything bad happen with out of control horses, bad situations. but it sounds like they certainly have that in their future. Either the person or the horse is going to have an accident sooner then later. They take their youth for granted, but this too shall pass. Stay away from them.
{{{Hugs}}} And the good thing is that you both survived, and you both kept your head, and Mara didn't bolt!
Mara does look keyed up in those photos. I hated riding Bombay when he jigged and am so thankful that he finally got over it. The trainer and I circled him for months and just when I started thinking that all that circling was pointless, he stopped jigging. It is important that you can trust the people you ride with.
Hang in there girl!! Things will get better. Insensitive people are no fun. I am with Kitty!!
nicole, there is a real language barrier between me and these two people, and i'm no good at emotional outbursts in german, i just cant' do it. my emotional outbursts are always in english, in my head.
heather, that method works to a point, and it was working for me before kat got on mara. baasha learned to just jig at a halfpass, no, even more extreme, completely sideways - perpendictular to the trail - back and forth.
annette, it's soooooooo good that you have brett!!!
ellie, eryn's blog is: http://leavingagiantimpression.blogspot.com/ but it might be private now??
tara, it's the most basic rule of horse etiquette - how can some ppl not know this!?!?
chicago, i hate to think about them getting hurt but at some point we all do, right?
nm, "keyed up" - *lol* you said it. i will be trying circling, but of coruse that requires a riding partner who understands why she has to keep stopping and waiting. hm. good thing no cholla here.
Thank you, eryn gave her blog a plug in your comments so I thought it sounded like a good read.
Gosh darn it all! I don't think you screwed up "THEY DID", and you learned from their HUGE mistake in horsemanship manners-(NONE).
I am terribly sorry for that Riding out -FAIL-.
As you know I have spent COUNTLESS HOURS working my mare's competitive nature down to a dull roar and a hop up or two. I absolutely REFUSE to ride with those who don't have a training mind and spirit in them.
So have a few riding partners, but I do have those few AWESOME RIDING PARTNERS ...and we've braved ELK on the beach, bears in the woods, went horse swimming the mountains lakes...and so on...the GOOD uns are out there..and YOU will find one or two.
The beer thing got me...how terribly rude of them!! And for your first ride out on a new green mare. I have been known to have a Toddy at sunset rides..but that Is with trusted and tested riding friends.
Take a deep cleansing(emphasis-cleansing-)breath...and move on. Dust your boots off form the past time and you and Mara mare move onward and forward!
GOOD JOB too...I would have left them in the dust and never looked back!
I hate this type of situation, but it is hard to find compatible riders (even without the language barrier!) I was worried of the same situation, but I decided that I would rather ride alone the correct way for my horse than deal with other horses/riders. I spent many months alone on trail, riding and on foot, while I "learned" my horse/his reactions/etc. I got scared sometimes, and got off. He felt too fast sometimes, and I slowed him down. Others might have thought me "wimpy" or "scared" but I had to do what was right for me. But I slowly gained trust (we both did), added in riding slowly with like-minded folks, then more quickly, then in larger groups, now endurance rides. It took three years. And I would go that slow again if I had to because I think I got a great partner out of it.
Ride for yourself and Mara. The rest with work itself out.
grrr. don't ride with idiots any more. I don't want you getting hurt!
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Wow they would have totally pissed me off. And that is exactly why I won't even hang out around people who are drinking, no matter how much they've had! Just forget them. You're better off riding alone. Can your man not walk with you guys? That's what my husband does, but he doesn't have much time to go with me so it's not often and I get soooo bored riding around at home. Trust me I'm frustrated to the point of wanting to scream about not being able to find someone to ride with, but after reading this I almost don't even want to find other riders lol. I wish we could just all go ride with Judi. :D
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