Monday, September 20, 2010

My second lesson, Schlaufzuegel

My second lesson was on Gina, another big mare with opposite issues. The first thing she did when I put her in her stall to groom her was to snark at me bigtime over her hay. I tied her short to the wall so there would not be a food issue. Then she stood there with her ears pinned at me, and her head as high as she could hold it, and she just glared. I glared back and poked her with the brush. Don't look at me like that! She looked at me like she was daring me to push her. I started grooming and she squealed at me and snapped. I whacked her and wondered how on earth such a horse could be used for schooling. I realized the brush was too stiff for her, she was irritated by the brush, so I was very gentle and quick, but when I asked her to move her giant body over so I could do the other side, she kicked underneath herself angrily at my hand touching her side. Great, she's fighting me in the stall--I wonder what she'll do undersaddle.

I asked my friend Ulrike, "Is Gina always like this or is it me?"

Ulrike came over right away and talked to Gina, cooing at her and trying to comfort her. Then Ulrike saddled her herself - I told her I didn't want to get kicked.

I was able to put the bridle on, but I spent forever asking her to drop her head for me, because I simply cannot reach that high and she wasn't relaxing for me. I saw her eye finally change and she dropped it just enough for me to get the bridle on.

I took her to our riding instructor and said "She hates me" and the instructor said, "Maybe she's having a bad day." Later Anja told me, "It's just Gina - she is so sensitive, she can't stand to be touched. She's not a cuddly horse."

I got on and started warming up and realized it was just like riding Baasha. Wonderful! Gina was extremely sensitive to my weight and leg, and extremely bendy too. I love that! The instructor warned me, "Don't put your leg back behind the girth, she won't take that."

But then the chaos ensued. I don't know why I am having difficulty riding in arenas with 4 other students, perhaps because we're all doing different things and going different directions, it's almost impossible not to collide. There was no structure to this lesson, it was mostly just freetime so I had horses coming at me from all sides. I learned that Gina is claustrophobic, everytime a horse went by she'd pin her ears, and once a horse swished its tail and she leapt sideways to avoid it. So Gina and I were both intimidated into doing very little, I was trying to stay in the middle, and I was constantly looking around me trying to figure out when I could turn or trot or something. At one point I got yelled at for walking on the rail - "Yield the rail if your'e only walking!!!!" The many different rules of yielding are not habit for me. It's left-knee to left-knee when passing an oncoming rider, but only if you are both going the same pace - if one is going slower, that person yields the rail. Transitions make these situations even trickier.

This other student on the big nasty grey thoroughbred had so many issues - balking and bucking, that she had to get off and a trainer had to come ride the TB. I'd seen that horse bucking last week, and just suddenly slamming on the brakes for no apparent reason. I made a mental note to refuse if offered that horse.

So the trainer gets on the grey, and tunes it up by cantering nonstop for about 15 minutes, which made it even harder to avoid collisions and I just tried to "hide" from her as best I could.

Then the trainer gave the horse back to the student and the student did OK after that.

Ulrike rode Amanda, the mare I had last week, and it was fun for me to see how another rider handles her laziness. Poor Ulrike had to whack her a lot, and use all her strength to get her to move. Amanda sure looked pretty though.

The other student was on this little Haflinger with the roughest gaits, I felt so bad for her bouncing all over the place! But the mind of that horse was good, he tried hard and didn't fight. I'd take him over the grey!

The instructor told us to canter and Gina knew what to do from routine, I barely touched her and she sprang into a canter. It was hard for me to remember not to over-cue her, thanks to my experience last week, so at one point I asked her to canter and she bucked me forward onto her neck. Both of my feet got shoved all the way into the stirrups. The instructor shouted in English BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!! and I was annoyed at the bucking so I squeezed and made her canter several laps as fast as she'd go.

But coming back to that trot - oh my, this horse is so comfortable! She floats and your body doesn't even want to post it, you want to just sit deep and enjoy the sitting trot. It's not often that I enjoy the sitting trot, but Gina makes it fun. I had to remind myself not to sit the trot too often.

Oddly, the instructor wanted us to go from sitting trot to rising trot alternatingly, but she wanted the sitting trot to be slower and the rising to be faster. My old instructor back home always taught that the rhythm/speed should be the same, that we should try not to lose the tempo as we sat down.

Before the lesson the barn manager (owner?) was hanging out with our instructor, so I figured it was a good time to bring up the sidereins. (Schlaufzuegel is what they call them.) I said, "So, eventually we will get to ride without them, correct?"

They looked uncomfortable, "Well we don't usually let students drop them."

I said, "But we're not beginners and we don't need the artificial aid."

The barn owner said, "If the students rode without them, the horses would hollow out, hurt their backs, and we'd have to take them to the butcher and buy new horses."

Uh-huh. If that was her idea of humor, well, who jokes about that kind of thing?!?

Then my instructor said, "Don't worry. You can take them off when I see that you are not USING them anymore. When they go loose."

I thought of this a lot as I rode, so I purposefully took up contact and asked for Gina's head. Since the sidereins are attached so tightly, I couldn't get her behind them enough to loosen them. And as I rode, I realized that I prefer to ride on a light contact, with almost loose reins. I have no need to ask for more contact when the horse's head is tied to its saddle, its head already on the vertical. Why would I ask a horse to give what it is already being forced to do? So it's a bit of a conundrum, isn't it?

Afterwards I wanted to talk to the other ladies about their rides. I'm sure the nice lady who drew the TB was not happy but I didn't get a chance. The grouchy lady who rode the Haflinger actually answered my questions and appeared to even smile as she talked to me. That was a first, she usually won't look at me when I say "Guten Tag" to her. Ulrike was exhausted from Amanda, of course.

I wanted to buy Ulrike a coffee but Anja came over and yelled "Let's go, you can talk next time, I have to get home!" so off we went.

I paid for a group of 5 lessons and I know which horses to avoid. I really did have fun riding Gina and even Amanda once I got the gas pedal back.

I am more and more bothered by the prospect of never losing the sidereins though. I know that it is not the end of the world if horses do not round up for us, if they go around head high, that's just another challenge of learning to ride different horses - learning how each horse needs to be requested for collection.

What are the real reasons unerlying this barn's trend? Vanity? They want the horses to look pretty for audiences? Laziness? It's easier on the instructors if that whole asset of teaching is omitted?

Health? Their reason that it's unhealthy to take them off could hold water if it were only one or two horses, but not ALL of the horses.

I'm curious how widespread this phenomenon is in Germany. I'll have to tour a few more stables and watch a few more group lessons to find out.

I am not anti-draw reins - I have a set of my own. I used them sparingly. I also have elastic side reins for lunging. However there is a big difference between a leverage device I hold in my hand as I ride, than that device being tied to the saddle while I ride.

I just realized I should have the riding instructor or another trainer demonstrate to me how to ride with the sidereins loose. That is, without Gina's mouth touching her chest horribly behind the vertical. I'm curious to see if it's possible.

And I wonder if they've ever heard of something called a running martingale: )

17 comments:

Nuzzling Muzzles said...

Interesting, as always. I don't think I'd be happy with group lessons that involved a free-for-all. I have no idea what the rules are regarding the rail either. Those horses certainly don't seem to be good choices for schooling horses. Every horse has its quirks, though. I remember Bombay's trainer saying he'd make a good school horse, but I could just imagine some little child trying to hang on when he teleports sideways in a spook. Otherwise, he's very responsive, athletic and tolerant, so I can see what she meant.

Reddunappy said...

Very hard to go against what a "trainer" does, and says.
I had comments on another blog about stirrup length in a hunt saddle. The trainer is always right, uhuh. I have learned a lot, but not by paying someone else for their advise very often, meaning I have taken lessons, but not very many.
I have run up against trainers that think their word is gospel.
As long as I live I will never know all there is to kow about horses. Neither will anyone else, trainers included. LOL I guess I have my own strong opinion! LOL LOL
Have fun with it! I take what works for me and let them have the rest. LOL

AareneX said...

Gina sounds very much like Fiddle was when I got her: very protective of her "space" in all ways--thus the brush is too stiff, the horses are too close, your cues must be very subtle. I learned to push her envelope verrrrrry slowly, and now she accepts incursions into her space as a matter of routine rather than as an affront to her bubble. I think a horse so sensitive would be very unhappy in a lesson barn, with many strangers touching her all the time!

It sounds like she appreciated your ability to give quiet cues, though--and it's certainly less work than riding ol' Ironsides. >g<

There's always something to learn, right? Even if what you learn is how not to do something...

Crystal said...

Wow those lessons sound kinda chaotic! Some interenting schooling horses as well.
Not sure Id like those side reins on all the time either, sure not much reward for doing the right thing.

EvenSong said...

I think it's always an issue of hearing what the instructor/trainer has to say, giving it a try in their presence (after all, you're paying them for their "expertise"), then adopting what you find of value and discarding the rest. Unless, of course, there is any kind of abuse: then, I'm outta there.
I did a little mini-clinic this weekend, and even though much of what was offered was stuff Kate and I already do, it WAS nice to have someone give us some structure and feedback. I realize how lazy I am when I do my own thing!

AmityBee said...

I think no matter which country you're in, good lesson barns and good school horses are hard to find. I think yours doesn't sound too bad compared to what I know is out there. But of course if you keep looking you might even find a better one.

I just like to add that those are NOT Schlaufzügel no matter what the trainer calls them. One picture shows Lauferzügel the other Wienerzügel (the Y-shaped ones). It's only a Schlaufzügel if you hold them in your hands.

And of course germans know what a Martingal is. It's actually quite common but usually for jumping or for trail rides (and personally I do not think they have a place in Dressage).

Using training aids on school horses for the reasons your trainer mentioned IS quite common here. Even though a good lesson barn uses the kind of device the horse and rider really need and not all for one at all times.

When I was still riding school horses (about 20 years ago) we used different training aids on every horse. Sometimes sidereins, sometimes just a Martingal or sometimes nothing at all (for young or sensitive horses or with the better riders).

The real problem I have with training aids is when they are not used correctly. When in side reins the horses nose should be about a hand width above the vertical when the poll is the highest point.

AmityBee said...

I also think that the free riding is a good sign. I don't like that the trainer got on another horse during your lesson. The rules for sharing the indoor aren't too difficult but I agree that it can take some time to get used to.

Basically there are only 3 rules:

-"Linke Hand hat Vorfahrt" (this is you left knee rule)
-"Im Schritt den Hufschlag frei." (off the rail at the walk)
-"Ganze Bahn vor Zirkel" (this is a little difficult sometimes, it means that if you ride a circle or serpentines you have to keep away from the rail too)

And a 4th "rule" Look up, keep eye contact or even say where you're going. Then everything should work out just fine. I hope that you'll enjoy the last three lessons (or more) at this barn. Because, like I said before, this barn doesn't sound too bad.

Katrin

Anonymous said...

Every German lesson barn I've been to has a collection of lesson horses with terrible manners, and every single time, the response is cooing and being gentle and comforting them just so, to which the horse responds with more bad manners. "Oh they're just ______."

This is obnoxious to say, but it's kind of how many Germans in Berlin treat their kids, and sometimes their dogs, too. Bad manners are rarely corrected, because that would be squashing the natural character of the creature in question. So, when it comes time to really behave because it gets dangerous, you hear lots of yelling and the correction is heavy handed and nobody really ever learns anything.

juliette said...

This sounds like a nightmare experience. The grooming of your mare is very much like our Sovereign, though. He is literally miserable in his own skin. I can finally groom him without him making a face, but it has taken me a long time to figure out how to be that gentle. And, I can not cross tie him. He stands for me to do it now, but he turns into an alligatior with flat ears if I cross tie him. I don't think he is spoiled. Just scared in cross-ties. The side reins photos and story of your lesson are awful. It sounds like there is too much traffic in the ring at the same time for calm, relaxed riding. Good luck! At least your mare had a wonderful trot!

Laurie said...

Hi!

I'm new to your blog and just love it! How brave you are to move to another country! And your photos are breath taking! And, WOW what a love story! You should write a book or even better, make a movie! Much Love!

lytha said...

NM, Bombay could teach the intermediate students to have a deep seat!

Reddunappy, right now I feel like I'm learning more about German riding culture than riding itself. But that will even out in time.

Aarene, I was actually thinking of Fiddle's space issues as I rode Gina: ) You're right, it was SO much less work than ironsides!

Crystal, exactly. And there's no earthly way of getting a horse to lift its back and push from behind if they're heads are tied down like that.

Evensong, if I feel I'm in danger, I'll quit. Hopefully before I'm hurt.

AmityBee, you're right that no training device should be used on all the horses all the time. I just wanted to point out that I'd much rather see martingales used across the board than these side reins because martingales use far less leverage. They do less longterm damage to the horse's body and way of going too. They say only skilled riders should use draw reins but skilled riders would never need to resort to them.

Sirjeviise, that may explain why I lost contact with a lady I was trying to befriend. Her horse had no lead line manners and she asked me to lead him and when he barged into my space I yanked him back and yelled at him. Then he walked properly beside me with loose line hanging down. I wonder if that offended her at the time. Also, I hate it when people give excuses for bad behavior, "Oh she's just in heat, that is why she bit me." WTH! That is no excuse! Good manners carry over into when horses are hurting.

Juliette, hopefully you've found the brushes that Sovereign can handle too! My horse hates to be curried so I use a really soft one but still I don't curry as often as I should. My lesson wasn't exactly a nightmare, it was pretty intimidating though (and the snarky mare was unacceptable!). I may have to find a way to just take private lessons.

Journey's mom, thank you very much. I do love hearing myself type: ) hehehe

AareneX said...

It also occurs to me that "universal cures" of any type (especially equipment) are an indicator of lazy thinking on the part of trainers.

Each horse is an individual, each rider is an individual, and each horse/rider combination is slightly different than any other.

To say, "we ALWAYS use XYZ on every horse" is to overlook individual needs and preferences. Yes, there are some pieces of equipment that always need to be in place for safety (helmets, for example), but you wouldn't think of requiring every student to wear (for example) a white size small Troxel Sport, would you?

To say, "but we're too BUSY to treat each one as an individual" is a cop-out. If your business is horses, you need to know them all. Maybe not ride them all, maybe not even like them all, but at least be able to recognize that Horse A likes apples and ear rubs, Horse B is allergic to neoprene and prefers to have her feet cleaned in a particular order, and Horse C is stiff moving to the left until he's warmed up completely. If you have too many horses to know that kind of stuff, perhaps you have too many horses.

Now, am I completely out-of-the-park unreasonable? Somebody tell me...!

lytha said...

Aarene, I'm dying to know which horses actually need a training device and which don't. I wonder if they even know themselves!

When I rode Galim, his owner made me use a martingale on him but she didn't know how to adjust it (it was horse sized, on an Arab) so it did basically nothing. It was just a pain to always have to put it on, but it obviously wasn't hindering or helping the horse in any way.

OTOH, the TB I rode also had a maratingale, and I tried to take it off one day and her nose was up so high I could see it over her ears as I rode! (A real stargazer.) I didn't want to use a device I wasn't sure was necessary, and in that case, it was.

I'm also leery of barns which use the same bit on all their horses, (snaffles excluded) because ...what a coincidence, they all need the same one?

Funder said...

Those sidereins look too tight to me. Not that I'm an expert on collection... but a horse can go hollow with its head tucked in just as easily as it can go hollow with its nose out!

Glad you got a more responsive mount. Are they really random or are they assigned when you get there?

Reddunappy said...

Yeah Lytha, I bet the riding culture is soooo different! Not to mention the lingo LOL.
Your doing great and so patient!
I love reading about your adventure in Germany!

White Horse Pilgrim said...

we have lots of ill behaved lesson horses in Britain too. I can't really blame them, with students bumping on their backs and pulling on their mouths (because the only "correct" way to ride is with a firm contact). Some of those horses had become really quite twisted mentally, almost sadistic, as a result of the regime.

How many people have ridden Baasha other than you? So far as I know, I'm one of only four people to have ridden Doru and, if I buy the gelding that I'm looking at, I'll be only the second to ride him.

allhorsestuff said...

Oh!
This so goes against what I believe about hoirses and well trained riders.Well trained riders can get most horses to relax...(excluding saddlefit,mouth and body problems)
How in the world do they even expect any student to know(feel the correctness in the horse) if they are riding a horse that is Held in place...and falsely, I might add??!!

Oh, this makes me so sadd..how do you continue?

Try for some private lessons, I pray you!
XO
Kac and Wa mare